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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:29:00 -
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We've heard a lot recently about various organisations importing "adult" holovids into the Empire and claiming that their activites are legal because Imperial customs vessels do not stop them.
Those who say that the importation of degenerate filth into the Empire is legal because customs vessels do not stop them are forgetting something, however...
When it ID tags cargo, the SCC does not differentiate between religious holovids and the sick and twisted material produced by Gallente studios. As such, when a customs vessel scans a ship's cargo, all they see are holovids, and so are unable to determine the moral purity of the goods. In effect, it is legal to import holovids into the Empire, even though the subject matter of those same holovids may not be legal.
I hereby call upon the SCC to think of the children and introduce a classification system for holovids so that our brave customs officers can carry out their duty.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 18:41:00 -
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Nikolai, are you happy for Minmatar holovid documentaries alledging malpractice by Caldari corporations to be allowed into the State?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/12/2005 19:33:47
 Originally by: Shemar
I have a question for PIE Inc...
Assuming there actually is a ratings system, do you plan to request that all material classified as 'adult only' be illegal in the Empire and only allow those that are suitable for children? Do you really have such a low opinion of the decision making ability of the Amarr citizens? Or, rather, are you really so afraid that the Amarr citizens may actually have a decision making ability?
A lot of what you describe as "adult only" material is already illegal in the Empire.
Anyway, I could say exactly the same thing about dangerous drugs.
Do you think that crash should be legal because anyone with a good decision making ability will avoid it anyway?
At the end of the day, decent people do not want filth around them in the same way as they don't want drugs. If this sort of depraved holovid were legal, no doubt foreigners in the Empire would display it openly, thus offending the upright Imperial subjects.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/12/2005 19:40:46
Originally by: Hayzo
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Nikolai, are you happy for Minmatar holovid documentaries alledging malpractice by Caldari corporations to be allowed into the State?
Remind me why Caldari would buy them.
Even the most loyal of Caldari citizens might buy anti-State propaganda if they are misled about its contents.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: *****head Bob
And if morality is the issue here, I believe an Amarr is the last race to tell the rest of US about "morality." 
The beauty of my proposal, *****head, is that under it non-Amarrian nations are free to import whatever obscenities they wish.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Nikolai, are you happy for Minmatar holovid documentaries alledging malpractice by Caldari corporations to be allowed into the State?
Of course I'm not happy about it, but that doesn't mean that it's the SCC's job to regulate such filth. What does that have to do with what I was saying anyway?
And I'm not saying that it's the SCC's job either.
All that I'm asking of the SCC is that they classify holovids. It would then be up to the national authorities to decide what regulations to impose.
As things stand, customs from all four major nations are effectively forced by the SCC to accept all holovids, no matter what their content. My proposal would end this.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:05:00 -
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Those people arguing that my proposal would hamper freetrade should consider the following...
As things stand all holoreels are classifed the same as each other (with the exception of Quafe promotional material and election broadcasts for the Gallentean elections). That means that a trader has no way of knowing if he's importing the latest holovids or ones that are ten years old.
Clearly, one sort of holovid is worth more to a planetside distributor than the other, as there is more demand for recent material.
I'm sure that all of the free trade experts won't need me to explain to them why this imbalance is bad for the market.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.20 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 20/12/2005 08:25:23
Originally by: Merv Tring
The fact that erotica sells within Amarr space shows that there is a market for it. Maybe, just maybe, not all Amarrians have the opinions or views that their government tells them to.
But does so-called erotica really sell within the Empire? Outside of a few bootleg holovids sold to mostly non-Amarrian pilots by the filth merchants of the GLS, how much is really sold?
Without a classification system you cannot know.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.20 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 20/12/2005 19:46:29
Originally by: Shemar
Originally by: Rodj Blake
But does so-called erotica really sell within the Empire? Outside of a few bootleg holovids sold to mostly non-Amarrian pilots by the filth merchants of the GLS, how much is really sold?
If that is the case then why all the fuss?
Because even just one disgusting holoreel is one disgusting holoreel too many.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.20 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shemar
I have never had any problems trasporting our products to Amarr stations and selling them to local merchants. No Amarr customs official ever stopped me. Looking up our products categories and their legality in Amarr, I see them as perfectly legal. I suggest you at least make an effort to research facts first in the future.
Which takes us back to my original point. Because the SCC lumps all holoreels without anything to do with Quafe and the Gallente elections together, customs officers cannot act to uphold the law.
You may see your products as perfectly legal, but then producers of far worse also see their merchandise as perfectly legal.
Just because customs officers are unable to determine if the contents of your holoreels are legal, it does not follow that they actually are legal.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/12/2005 11:00:47
Originally by: James Lyrus
I would have thought it obvious that material of dubious content gets imported because it gets bought. You know, by those law abiding and moral citizens, who like a bit of ... action in their viewing.
You're not quite right there.
It gets imported because it gets bought by people who who don't know what they're buying.
The SCC see no problem whatsoever with classifying Quafe promotions and Gallentean election broadcasts seperately to other types of holoreel. Why can't the classify all holoreels like this? Where is the harm in classifying reels as dramas, religious programmes, sick perversions, or news broadcasts?
I'm sure that distributors in the Minmatar Republic would be disappointed if they picked up a consignment of holoreels only to realise later on that instead of the latest action flick they had several thousand copies of Yonis Ardishapur commenting on the Scriptures. My proposaly would prevent this.
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